The Timelessness of God, and the Deity of Christ

[Who Created God?]
If God exists outside of time and space, and if He is the Creator of time and space, He obviously was not created! God began the beginning! This is why He says, “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.” http://www.doesgodexist.org/Phamplets/WhoCreatedGod/WhoCreatedGod.html

This is the Theological answer to the question of who created God, and science seems to confirm this answer. One of the ramifications of Einstein's Theory of General Relativity is that space and time are part of the same thing. As a person speeds up, relative to the fixed frame of reference of the universe, his watch will slow down. The amount of the slow down is insignificant (but measurable with very accurate atomic clocks) at speeds significantly less than (under 80% of) the speed of light.

Here is a site that lets you see it happen...

http://www.walter-fendt.de/ph11e/timedilation.htm


Those who follow the teachings of A. E. Knoch (like the Jehovah's Witnesses) believe  that our Lord was created at a point in time, in spite of the fact that there is no evidence of this in the Bible.

Heb. 7:3 clearly implies (even in the Concordant Version) that the Son of God is "
without begining of days, or consummation of life," and Rev. 3:14 can be translated "the Chief of the creation of God" (Young's Literal Translation.) The word translated "Chief," or "begining" is "arche," and Knoch wrongly believed that when this word is followed by a genitive expression "it is only used of the first of a series."

As proof such statements are in error, I offer the following quote:

A significant example of ARCHE from the first century A.D. occurs in Josephus' Antiquities, 8.280. In this passage, Josephus calls God: ARCHE KAI TELOS TWN hAPANTWN ("the beginning and the end of all things"). Here, again, we see "beginning" in the sense of source, not first in a series; just as we see "end" in the sense of goal or purpose, not last in a series. If Josephus can speak of God as the ARCHE of all things, without intending to imply that He was first-created, John certainly can say the same of the Son of God...Here is a list of occurrences in the LXX of ARCHE followed by a genitive expression: Gen. 1:16, 40:20; Ex. 6:25; Psalm 109:3, 136:6; Prov. 17:14; Jer. 22:6; Dan. 6:26, 7:12, 11:41; Amos 6:11; Ob. 20; Mic. 3:1. As can be seen from these passages, a genitive expression is not a contextual marker for ARCHE to mean ‘beginning.

http://www.forananswer.org/Rev/Rv3_14.htm

John 1:3 tells us "all things came into being through Him, and without Him not one thing came into being" (New Revised Standard.) If God  is the timeless "I Am" (as He told Moses in Exodus 3:14), it follows that time is part of His creation, and if it was thru Christ that He created all things (visible and invisible, as it says in Col. 1:16), how could our Lord himself be anything less than the timeless image (Word, or Logos) of God?


                                                 
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